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Kinross and Glasgow
SCOTLAND, HOME TO US ALL
Margaret Haldane, Charles Stewart, and James Archibald
Chapter 1, an Extract from "We Are All Margaret Haldane's Bairns"
"By John Duncan,
"of Melbourn, Australia 2001"
Transcribed & Updated for the web,
by his American Cousin,
Colleen Cahoon, of Texas
You may submit questions or comments to John Duncan,
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John Duncan at Jezzmo
TO SCOTLAND
Have you ever been to Scotland?
I heard a Scotsman say.
Have you never been to Scotland,
Well, I hope some day you may.
To sit awhile beside the burn while the shades of evening fall,
And see afar the distant hills and hear the curlew call,
To wander midst the heather and feel the wind's caress,
You feel your heart a bursting with the glow of happiness.
What of that great castle? That fortress built of stone.
Where Scotsmen fought their hardest to put Charlie on the throne.
See the Pass of Glencoe where brave men fought and died.
To save old Scotland's honour, and fill our hearts with pride.
There is the Port of Glasgow, where ships from far and wide,
Come sailing up the river. The dear old River Clyde.
From that busy sea-port, many a man with wife and kin,
Left for a far-far country, a new life to begin.
Do go to Glamis Castle; where a Queen to be was born,
Where many coloured flowers border the greenest lawns.
Go to the Games at Braemar and see those feats of skill,
You'll set your feet a-tapping when they dance the eight-some reel.
Northward then to Aberdeen,
That Granite City -wondrous clean,
Down by the shore the fisher-folk,
The harvest of the sea they glean.
And someday, if God spares me, to Scotland I will go,
What we heard in song and story, these things I'll see and know.
I'll walk a-mang the heather, I'll know her banks and brae's,
And like Robbie Burns before me, I too, shall sing her praise.
[author unknown] but provided by John Duncan.
Prior to beginning the reading of this compilation, it is recommended that you read the compiler, John Duncan's introduction, if you have not already.
In Scotland, the land of my birth, folks have a popular saying that "we are all Jock Tamson's bairns!"
I have no idea who Mr. Tamson [Thompson] was, but the saying may be interpreted as stating that Scots are all descended from a common ancestor, and whilst doubt can be cast upon the legitimacy of this idea, it is true that the most of the people mentioned in this family history, are indeed the descendants of this Scottish lady - Margaret Haldane #60, and so I have decided to entitle this story:
We are all Margaret Haldane's Bairns.
MARGARET HALDANE, CHARLES STEWART & JAMES ARCHIBALD The Danes [Danish] settled in England from the ninth century, one Viking leader had the personal name of Halfdane, which was intended as a racial slur, presumably signifying the son of a mixed marriage. It exists now from the Old English; Haldane and variations of the name are Halden and Haldin.
More on the origins of Haldane follow at the end of this excerpt, which mentions some "historically noteable Haldanes" whom we may, or may not, somehow be tied to; the main mention introduced here is that the name is of NORSE ORIGIN.
We do not know where Margaret Haldane was born but it was c 1795 - 1800, and indeed we are not certain that she was Scottish, but it is very likely so, and it pleases me to believe same, and the fact that she was married to Charles Stewart#59 on 15 June 1820, at Cathcart, Glasgow, strengthens this view.
John Duncan now knows that Margaret Haldane, indeed was Scottish. More on this later...note by Colleen Cahoon, aka hereafter as simply, ...green text, and/or paragraphs or sections followed by the symbol, "@".
Their marriage certificate identifies her as Margaret Haldane, yet at the wedding of her daughter Annie Archibald #69 [from Margaret's second marriage], in Victoria, Australia, her name on the marriage certificate #541, is stated to be "Margaret Hill [maiden name] ", so the simplest solution to this surname dilemma appeared to be to simply call her Margaret Haldane Hill.
Margaret Haldane, or Margaret Hill?
Research of the IGI Internet Genealogy Service of the Church of Latter Day Saints, by the Rev. David Nicholson (A Great-Great-Grandson of Margaret Haldane and Charles Stewart) appears to indicate that Margaret Haldane was born in 1800 at Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland. The birth was registered by "relative" John Cairns. { source information: Film number: 183459, Page Number:1291, Ref. No.: 42768. }
Further research suggests that the above, is NOT our Margaret Haldane, wherein an alternative reference has been found, in Kinross, Scotland. That cite will be shown below and is mentioned here to avoid misleading the reader, by the above reference, which was until recently, accepted as being potentially pertinent to our ancestress. @
David then comes across a record of a Margaret Hill, whose birth is recorded as ABT {about} 1798, at Glasgow, with parents named as William Hill & Grace McIntyre Hill. { source information: Film number: 1239614, Page No. 306, Ref. No: 6774. }
Could Margaret Haldane, have been adopted by the Hills? This would certainly explain her usage of both surnames.
Review of all the data, does not indicate that Margaret herself ever used the surname Hill. In fact all the data expressly refers to Margaret's maiden name as being Haldane. These truths lead to John's reconsideration of the probability, that the birth of a Margaret Hill, is coincidence, and bears no relationship to the wife of our ancestor, Charles Stewart, our Margaret Haldane. @
With that in mind, though the file sent to me was entitled, "We are all Margaret Hill's Bairns," John authorized updating it, to it's current and more accurate title, referencing Margaret Haldane. @
We all agree that the most logical conclusion is that, a terrible clerical error had been made, unfortunately, on the marriage certificate of Annie Archibald and Alexander McColl. There is no evidence of Annie's mother, Margaret Haldane, being present for the marriage, which took place in Australia and if she had been, surely the error might not have occurred, or at least caught and corrected, hopefully. @
The alternative is suggestion of possibility, that the Annie Archibald that married Alexander McColl, was actually a daughter of a Margaret HILL and an Archibald. This is not inconceivable. However, it is significant to point out that the descendants, of Annie (Archibald) and Alexander McColl, never bore the surname Hill, yet they did bear the surname, Haldane! This fact, John will also note later, which reverts us back to fully recognizing Annie (Archibald) McColl as the daughter of Margaret (Haldane) and James Archibald. Rather than eliminate the prior investigations and thoughts on the matter, as part of the editing process, I feel it is more prudent to let them stand, as is, to allow others to pursue deeper, should they desire to do so. @
Even more than his wife Margaret, Charles Stewart is a mystery to us, and whilst some more energetic genealogist, with deeper pockets than I, may uncover the facts in the future, at this point of time, we can only speculate.
We do know that his occupation was a hand-loom weaver and that he was born c1790 - 1800, which I consider a rather unusual occupation for a resident of industrial Glasgow, and one that may be more likely to be encountered in the Scottish highlands or islands, which leads me to speculate that Charles and/or Margaret were from one of these areas.
David's IGI records advise that Charles Stewart and Margaret Haldan [sic] were married on 15 Jun 1820 at Glasgow. { Batch No. 7013822, Source call No.0538422, Sheet 32 }
An amendment, by the Compiler: Contrary to my earlier stated view, the cottage industry of hand loom weaving was a thriving industry in Glasgow around 1800, employing thousands of weavers, however by 1819, as we shall see from the following account, many of these weavers were unemployed, and by 1820, the year of Charles' marriage to Margaret Haldane, the situation worsened, leading to open revolt, so it could not have been easy for Charles & Margaret.
It is interesting to note here, that on the island of Harris, Scotland, that a few weavers still practise their ancient craft of producing the world-famous Harris Tweed, weaving and spinning by hand and colouring the material with natural dyes.
REVOLUTION.
In the later days of the year 1819, Glasgow was a trouble torn city. The population was seething with excitement as a radical uprising was imminent. Great hosts of unemployed workmen [ 60,000 says credible author John Prebble ], paraded the cobbled streets of Glasgow in regimented military fashion seeking to draw the attention of the city authorities to their sorry plight. Their demands were simple enough by modern standards: they wanted a chance to earn money to buy food and shelter.
The men had been mainly self employed at hand loom weaving and the advent of mass production at the spinning-mills had thrown thousands of them out of work. The authorities of Glasgow tried hard to ease the desperate situation in these trying times. Relief centres were set up and subscriptions were invited and gathered in quickly.
Consequently, work schemes were devolved to improve the Glasgow Green. Three hundred and twenty-four weavers were employed at the task of levelling and sloping the fields and digging tunnels to divert, underground, the course of the Molendinar and Camlachie Burns through large conduits on their way to join the River Clyde. However these palliatives did not halt the cry of the people for greater reform and liberty was earnestly sought for the right to vote at parliamentary elections. King George 1V and the governing classes were unwilling to grant reform to the masses considering that it would break down the constitution of the country.
In the year 1820 events came to a stormy climax. The radicals rose in revolt with the purpose of forming a provisional government. Bills, signed by order of the committee of organisation, were posted at prominent places in the city calling on the populace, at the peril of their lives, to exert their rights. The reigning government thwarted these activities by introducing trained spies among the ranks of the radicals. The spies posed as compatriots and wormed their way into the confidence of the radicals, supplied them with arms and ammunition, deluded and betrayed them with false information and led them into a trap and consequently to their doom.
The radical plan was to attack Glasgow from Cathkin Braes to the south and from Campsie Hills in the north and spies had circulated the [false] information that thousands of men from England & France were ready to support them at the appointed time and place. Seventy radicals met on Fir Park which is now the Central Necropolis, and the spies directed them to Falkirk where it was said, they would meet English supporters who would assist them to seize the Carron Iron Works, the great cannon foundry of the Kingdom. The radicals readily marched, but on arrival no English supporters were to be seen and many became discouraged and left the dwindling ranks. The remaining thirty men were resting on Bonnymuir near Castkecary when suddenly a troop of the 7th Hussars advanced towards them.
They refused to surrender and hastily formed a square from which they tried, with courage and poor weapons, to beat off the crushing attack of the seasoned cavalry. In the end, they were nearly all wounded and taken prisoner. Carts were provided to transport the wounded to the Military prison at Stirling Castle.
Glasgow was now considered by the authorities to be the Scottish Headquarters of the Radical Movement and also became the centre of the Government instituted spy system. After the Battle of Bonnymuir the government agents speedily rounded up and apprehended the "rebels" as they were called.
At this period of time, Glasgow was heavily fortified against an invasion from the radicals. The Rifle Brigade, the 80th and 83rd of Foot, the 7th and10th Hussars, several regiments of foot and the Glasgow Sharpshooters, a regiment of volunteers under the command of Samuel Hunter, Editor of the Glasgow Herald, were called out to patrol the countryside and protect the city.
Pearlie James Wilson, a 60 year old Strathaven weaver, was the first to be arrested. He was the inventor of the pearl stitch in knitting and politically his ideas were in advance of his time. Wilson tried to make his escape unobserved through the quietness of the Strathaven graveyard, at the back of his house, but was discovered and promptly arrested. He was tried in Glasgow by an English court of OYER AND TERMINER [ a royal commission conferring power to hear and determine criminal causes { out of official use 1972} ] and was found guilty of the capital crime of High Treason.
After a trial lasting 2 days, sentence of death was duly passed in that he be "drawn upon a hurdle to the place of execution, hanged by the neck until you be dead and that afterwards your head be severed from your body and your body be divided into four quarters, to be disposed of as His Majesty shall think fit, and may God Almighty have mercy on your soul." At the appointed hour Wilson was hanged and beheaded in the Glasgow Green, witnessed by a vast crowd of 20,000 people. The greatest show of military power ever seen at an execution in Glasgow, flanked the scaffold.
Amidst the scenes of this diabolical cruelty, the crowd expressed its sympathy for the doomed man by shouting in chorus "Murder, Murder." Perhaps the mood of the multitude foiled the executioner from quartering the body.
Wilson's remains were buried in the Glasgow Cathedral Graveyard. A request by the relatives for them was refused, but a hint was passed to them that the body could easily be procured. At nightfall, his daughter and niece dug the coffin from its shallow grave, with their bare hands, and carried it back to Strathaven on an Avondale Farmer's cart, arriving at 4 o'clock in the morning.
A large assembly of townsfolk was waiting for the arrival of the body of the martyr. The remains of Pearlie Wilson were buried not far from the back door of his house in Castle St., Strathaven, and an inscription on the handsome tombstone states:-- 1846 Erected by public subscription in affectionate memory of James Wilson, a patriotic Scotsman, who suffered death at Glasgow 30th August 1820 for enunciating those principles of progress and reform by the adoption of which Great Britain has secured domestic peace and consolidated her power among the nations. Born at Strathaven 5th September 1760.
John Baird a weaver from the village of Condorrat and Andrew Hardie, a Glasgow weaver and ancestor of the late prominent M.P. Keir Hardie [whose son Duncan was engaged to the compiler's aunt, Elisabeth McMillan Duncan.], were considered to be ringleaders of the thirty men who took their stand at the Battle of Bonnymuir.
At Stirling they were tried for high treason by the court of OYER AND TERMINER. The King had set up a special commission to try the radicals. The well known lawyer, Francis Jeffrey, took over the defence but on this occasion his eloquence was unable to save them. The fate of Baird and Hardie caused tremendous excitement among the population and influential persons sent petitions Government, on their behalf, but the King and Constitution were adamant and refused to retract the sentence of death for high treason.
The executions were carried out, in the same sordid fashion as Wilson's, and the grizzly ceremony was enacted in the presence of the largest crowd ever to watch an execution in Stirling. Again, like the people in Glasgow, the crowd expressed its sympathy for the condemned men by shouting in unison "Murder, Murder."
Like Wilson, Baird and Hardie faced their fate with supreme courage, declaring to the end that their cause was for truth & Justice. They were buried quietly in Stirling and to make certain the bodies would not be disturbed the military guarded the grave for a period of two months. However, twenty seven years later, the remains were exhumed and re-interred in the six year old cemetery of Sighthill.
A massive high quadrangle tombstone marks the martyrs' last resting place. And on it is engraved: Erected by Public subscriptions July 1847 to the memory of John Baird aged 32 and Andrew Hardie aged 28 Who for the Cause of Freedom suffered death at Stirling 8th September 1820.
Many of the Bonnymuir prisoners were sentenced to transportation to N.S.W. IN Australia. If one cares to visit the Auld Kirk Historical Centre in Kirkintulloch, he will be privileged to examine the bundle of letters containing the pardons of the Bonnymuir victims. The letters were obtained by the well known Nineteenth Century historian, Peter McKenzie, from King William 1V, who instituted the Reform Bill of 1832.
The letters and papers related to the period [1799-1875].
One letter in the bundle gives the following information:-- John McMillan from Camelon, Falkirk, was sentenced to death for his part in the Radical rising. Afterwards the severe sentence was committed to a free pardon on the proviso that he be transported for the remainder of his life, to the coast of Australia's oldest State, New South Wales.
Another letter states:-- John McMillan transported to New South Wales for High Treason who was granted a free pardon. Certificate of Freedom by his Excellency, Lieutenant General Ralph Darling, Captain General and Governor in Chief in and over the Territory of New South Wales, and its dependencies.
A further interesting letter, dated 1837 Feb. 4th, written by John McMillan, 2 Windmill St., Sydney, N.S.W. to Peter McKenzie, expresses thanks to the press for having assisted him in gaining his pardon.
Additional correspondence indicates that later John McMillan's wife and children went out at Government expense to join him in N.S.W..
A unique letter written by James Wilson is on show. It is a narrative giving in detail, the reasons why he was charged with High Treason. The letter was written in the Iron Room of the six year old Glasgow jail, on 29th August 1820, the day before his execution, and it is addressed to his wife.
In a measure the trials of Baird, Hardie and Wilson run concurrently with the hardships of The Tollpuddle Martyrs who created a chapter in political history, when six labourers from the village of Tollpuddle in Devon, England, were transported for 7 years to Hobart, in Tasmania.
SOURCE. From "Glaswegiana" by William W. Barr, who kindly presented a copy of his excellent book upon Glasgow, to the compiler's sister, Catherine Hence, which bears the inscription: " In Friendship, William W. Barr, 16 Mar 1973. "
Charles and Margaret Haldane Stewart's son, John Stewart #61 was born on 23 Dec 1823 in Glasgow.
It is still true that we know very little of our ancestor, Charles Stewart. However, thanks to John Duncan for sharing the works of William W. Barr above, we have some insight into the travesty of the times, in Glasgow, at the time of our ancestor's marriage. While we have no definiative answer yet, as to what did become of Charles Stewart, the above background information inspires much speculation. Our Charles may have been arrested and deported; he may have died in a conflict; he may have migrated with intent to find work elsewhere, with hope of sending for his family later and encountered ill-fate in the process. We simply do not know for sure, at this point. @
I should mention, that in the Revolution account above, there is a mention of John McMillan. At the time, though we have at least two branches of McMillans in our lines, we do not have any claim of relationship to the brave Scotsman above, though research into that possibility may prove otherwise. Until such time, it is logical to assert that we are not known to be of that John McMillan's line. @
Thankfully, much more has been learned about Margaret Haldane's line, then was known at the time John Duncan began this compilation, in 2001, after accumulating a life-time of notes and letters, regarding our family history data, at a time that predates the resources now available for us, via the internet. We should all be grateful to our Scottish born cousin, John Duncan, for allowing this opportunity for expanding upon his excellant foundation! @
Therefore, it is with the utmost respect and appreciation, for my Cousin, John Duncan, that I make the updates, herewithin. @
I was extremely fortunate to meet, on-line, Genealogist Deborah Robertson, of Glasgow, Scotland. To her, I shall also be forever grateful, for all the information she has gathered on my behalf. So great and significant it has proven to be, that I have fondly dubbed her my "Archival Angel," though herewithin I shall refer to her as Deb. I highly recommend her professional services, to anyone seeking information on their Glaswegian roots. @
Deb discovered the following, on my behalf: @
"A search on Scotlandspeople reveals the following :- @
1795 Haldane - Margaret, dau of John Haldane, wheelwright, Kinross, by his wife, Janet Horn, was born on sab: the 18th and baptized on sab the 25 Oct by Mr Smith. @
How I would have loved to have seen a wheel made from scratch! Just imagine, this was in the time of carts, wagons, and carriages! From simple and perhaps bulky wheels to the more refined and trim. The making of a wheel required knowledge of both, woods and metals, and much later, of rubber. Not only would the wheel need to have a balanced spoke system, for proper strength but a proper hub system as well... if it were too loose, then also unsafe as certainty of self-destructive wobble.... made too tight, would make unnecessary extra work, for already burdened pulling teams. And all of this done in the times of very simple handtools and simple forges! I can tell you truly that had I been Margaret Haldane, I would have wept bitterly if my father refused to let me learn and practice the wheelwright craft! I wonder if it appealed at all to our Margaret? :) @
The IGI Version is: MARGARET HALDANE, Female, Event(s): Birth: 18 OCT 1795, Christening: 25 OCT 1795, Kinross, Kinross, Scotland, Parents: Father: JOHN HALDANE, Mother: JANET HORN, Source Information: Batch No.: C114626 , Dates: 1783 - 1820 , Source Call No.: 1040354, Type: Film, Printout Call No.: NONE Sheet: 00 @
Of course Scotlandspeople only contains the Presbyterian Church records, but considering that Margaret had a son, named John, and a daughter, named Janet, I think this could be the right birth." @
Deb continues, "The IGI reveals that John Haldane and Janet Horn were married on 30 Nov 1788 at Kinross, Kinross, Scotland and also on 18 Dec 1788 at Dron, Perth[shire]. It is unlikely they married twice, but this looks as though one of them was originally from Dron in Perthshire and therefore they registered their marriage in those records also. @
John Haldane and Janet Horn have the following children in the IGI :- @
Mary Haldane..... b. 8 Oct 1789, bap: 11 Oct 1789
Christian Haldane..... b. 11 Apr 1791, bap: 17 Apr 1791
John Haldane..... b. 22 Nov 1792, bap: 25 Nov 1792
Robert Haldane..... b. 2 Oct 1794, bap: 5 Oct 1794
Margaret Haldane..... b. 18 Oct 1795, bap: 25 Oct 1795
Alexander Haldane..... b. 13 Jul 1797, bap: 16 Jul 1797
Robert Haldane..... b. 30 May 1799, bap: 2 June 1799 (1st died young?)
James Haldane..... b. 25 Mar 1801, bap: 29 Mar 1801
Janet Haldane..... b. 19 Mar 1803, bap: 20 Mar 1803
David Haldane..... b. 17 may 1805, bap: 2 June 1805
Jean Haldane..... b. 22 Mar 1807, bap: 5 Apr 1807 @
Amazingly, shortly after Deb sent me the above Haldane information, showing Margaret (b.1795) and all her siblings, with intent to dig further, Our Dear Cousin John Duncan, sent me an email that contained the same discovery, made by a friend of his,in Glasgow, of Margaret's parents and they apparently had been pursuing the lead for sometime, attempting to take us several steps further. John and his friend, Jack, discovered the following: @
John Haldan [sic] m. Margaret Kinross.
Children:-
1] Ann Haldane..... b. Jan. 1770. Ch. 14 Jan 1770
Lecropt, Perth, Scotland.2] Robert Haldan [sic]..... b. 27 Jan 1772. Ch. 09 Feb 1772
Lecropt, Perth, Scotland.3] Betty Haldan..... b. 11 Jan 1774. Ch.17 Jan 1774
Lecropt, Perth, Scotland.4] JOHN HALDAN..... b. 21 Apr 1776 Ch. 05 May
Lecropt, Perth, Scotland. m. JANET HORN5] Lodovick (means Louis) Haldan..... Male birth 18 Oct 1778. Ch. 25 Oct 1778
Lecropt, Perth, Scotland.6] William Haldan..... b. 07 Oct 1780. Ch. 11 Oct 1780
Lecropt, Perth, Scotland.7] James Haldan..... b. 11 Oct 1780 Ch 11 Oct 1780
Lecropt, Perth, Scotland.8] Henry Haldan..... b. 06 Nov 1782. Ch. 10 Nov 1782
Lecropt, Perth, Scotland.9] James Haldan..... b. 10 Feb 1785. Ch. 20 Feb 1785
Lecropt, Perth, Scotland.10] Ann Haldan..... b. 09 Oct 1787 Ch. 11 Nov 1787
Lecropt, Perth. Scotland.
This is important: Ecstatic, at first I thought we had found Margaret's grandparents and aunts and uncles. But closer inspection suggests that the above Haldanes, while interesting and relative to some, is most likely NOT our Margaret's Grandparents, because the child, John Haldane, listed above, born in 1776, would have been only TWELVE years old, in the year that our Margaret's father, John Haldane, married Janet Horn, in 1788. Rather than totally disregard this Haldane family group, I have decided to leave it, just in case it proves of some interest to another Haldane family and also to let our direct line descendants know that we did look at this group.. :- @
We have come light years ahead, in our knowledge of Margaret (b.1795) Haldane's ancestors and have gained the potential to expand back even further. And hopefully, through Margaret's many siblings, we may find living Haldane cousins. The potential is truly mind boggling !@
Unfortunately, the same can not be said, regarding our ancestor, Charles(b.bef.1795) Stewart. As of May 2007, I am not aware of anyone having information on his parents or siblings, though I have a sibling who once told our nephew that our Stewarts go back to Mary Queen of Scots. That sibling has yet to share any such details, if such a claim was made, so I was unable to advise that nephew as to whether it were true or not. What can be found here is the many discoveries that have been made, regarding two out of three of our Charles' known children, who certaintly were working class ancestors, worthy of our respect and appreciation, as survivors who have made our very existence, possible. @
John(b.1823) Stewart, shown in the photo above, was not the only child of Margaret(b.1795) Haldane and Charles(b.c.1795) Stewart. They had at least two others, with John between them; their children were, in order of birth: @
Janet Stewart, was born on 23 June 1821, Christened 8 July 1821, at Cathcart Renfrew.@
John Stewart, was born on 23 Dec 1823 in Glasgow. @
Charles Stewart, was born on 14 Dec 1826, Chnd. 18 Mar 1827, Barony Lanark. @
Daughter Janet(b.1821), was by tradition, named after Margaret's mother, Janet(b.c.1776) Horn. @
John(b.1823) the first born son, would likewise be named after one of his grandparents, his maternal grandfather, John(b.1776) Haldane though it is not inconceivable, that his paternal Stewart grandfather may also have been named John; we just don't know, at this point. @
Charles(b.1826) the second son, also by tradition, was named after his own father's given name, Charles(b.c.1795) Stewart. @
As you notice, I have begun to try to place their birth years with their names, which I will try to remember to do throughout, from this point forward, as means of distinquishing similar names. There are a lot of similar names in every generation! John(b.1926) Duncan has utilized, the numbers assigned by the tree program, that he used to compile his data. It occurred to me that many of our descendants may want to enter this information into their own programs, thereby initiating a new number system, so using the birth years here, instead of a program ID number, just seemed practical, because at a glance you can see in which generation the ancestor originated. I hope this does not lend to any confusion for those who may have adopted, our dear Cousin John(b.1926) Duncan's numbering system. I am merely looking ahead to the future, when hopefully our descendants from the year 3000 and beyond will be reviewing these ancient archives! :) @
At this time, I do not know when Margaret's(b.1795) mother, Janet(c.1776) Horn was actually born, nor when Margaret's first husband, Charles(c.1795) Stewart was born, so in all such cases, I will use the birth year of the spouse, if known, as an "about" or "circa" birth year. Hopefully, further research will require me to update, to specific years. :)@
To discuss John(b.1823) Stewart's eldest known sibling, Janet(b.1821) Stewart, we have to look towards the surname, Archibald, as well as Stewart, which is where she may have been found. @
Time and again, when searching census, for John(b.1823) Stewart and his siblings, we encountered many, many, Janet Stewarts, but they would be listed as having been born in Glasgow, rather than Cathcart, Refrew, as cited above. This, of course, threw us off, until Deb downloaded the Parish record of Charles(b.c.1795) Stewart and Margaret(b.1795) Haldane's marriage, from Scotlandspeople. @
May 27th 1820 Charles Stewart & Margaret Haldan both in this parish. (Cathcart) 3 days. (then was added) Married at Glasgow, June 15 (1820) by Mr Taylor, Minister. @
Deb explains: "...turns out they got married in Glasgow, but posted the banns on the 27th May, in Cathcart, then later registered that the marriage took place on 15 June in Glasgow. Therefore, I was wondering if perhaps, the same can be said for Janet's birth; perhaps she was born in Glasgow, but her birth was registered in Cathcart? (I have attached a copy of this.) " @
Indeed, Deb sent me a copy of the Cathcart Parish records, mentioned. @
Deb also provided the following: "I also downloaded John(b.1823) Stewart's birth announcement, from the Old Parish Records on Scotlandspeople. ;- THANK YOU so much Deb, for all your research! @
Glasgow, December 1823 Stewart - Charles Stewart, weaver & Margaret Haldane
a law: son John bo: 23rd Dec: wit: Alexander Haldane and William Kitt (??). @
Deb states, "I am not sure of the spelling on this last surname, (Kitt) but will attach a copy. The abbreviations mean the following: law: = lawful, bo: = born, wit: = witness. Alexander Haldane, is a great clue, he is most likely a brother of Margaret's." @
As we now know, Margaret(b.1795) Haldane , did have a younger brother named Alexander(b.1797) Haldane. &While Deb's first guess is Kitt, mine is "Witt", as the first letter of William looks similar to the first letter of the last name, to me, upon view of the image. @
The marriage of Charles and Margaret came to an end for an unknown reason, and Margaret(b.1795) then married James(b.c.1791) Archibald #65 on 09 Nov 1832 at Glasgow, with the IGI record identifying her as "Margaret Haldane". { Batch No. 7406748, Source call No.0934364, Sheet: 64 }.
Whilst we have scanty information about Margaret Haldane(b.1795) and her two husbands, one important fact remains, that these two marriages resulted in the descendant McColl clan in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; the Sinclair and Nicholson clans in Massachusetts, U.S.A.; the Cahoon clan scattered throughout the U.S.A., from Texas to Alaska and from Florida to California; the Robinsons in England; Jim Fauld's #439 descendants, also in England and the Duncan clan, resident in Brantford, Ontario, Canada and also the compiler's Duncan family, in Gisborne, Victoria, Australia.
We now look at the new information gathered on the Archibalds, which our Margaret(b.1795) Haldane married into. Deb found the following information, which was also found by John Duncan's researcher, Jack Miller.: @
1841 Census, 10 Little Dove Hill, Glasgow, Scotland: @
James Archabald, 50, Shoemaker, b. Scotland
Margaret Archabald, 40, - - -, b. Scotland
Isabella Archabald, 25, Power Loom Weaver, b. Lanarkshire
John Archabald, 15, Tailor, b. Lanarkshire
Margret Archabald, 8, - - -, b. Lanarkshire
Ann Archabald, 6, - - -, b. Lanarkshire
Janet Archabald, 1, - - -, born Lanarkshire @
It is Deborah's and my belief, that the above household may very well be that of Margaret (b.1795) Haldane, now Archibald, though the surname spelling is a variant, on this census, which is not unusual. @
There are many interesting things about this census. As Compiler, John Duncan, has pointed out, our Margaret(b.1795) Haldane, married James(b.c.1791) in Nov 1832. Therefore, further investigation is desired and required to establish the relationship of the Isabella Archabald, aged 25, listed on this census. She may well be James' daughter, by a previous marriage, or a widowed daughter-in-law, and certaintly deserves our attention and research, as any of our members do. I do think it is safe to declare that she is NOT our Margaret's daughter, but our Margaret's step-daughter, as this Isabella would have been born about 1816, and Margaret was with Charles(b.c.1795) Stewart at least until the conception, if not birth, of their son, Charles Stewart, born in 1826. @
Speaking of Margaret's son, Charles(b.1826) Stewart, where is he, at this time? He would be 15 years old. Perhaps he was visiting somewhere or living with an employer, as an apprentice? Or has he died? Additional research is required, obviously. @
The ages on this census should not be perceived as exact. Rounding down in increments of five, in this census year of 1841, was widely practiced. With that in mind, the Isabella above could have been as old as 29. The son listed as a 15 year old tailor, inspires several thoughts. If indeed born of James, at that time, it would have been rare for a son to not follow his father's trade. Our John would be 17 years old at the time of this 1841 census, so he would be, no matter which household found to be in, listed as fifteen. This John on the census, could have been born between 1822 and 1826, which fits our John's birth and preceeds the marriage of our James and Margaret. So, rather than being the son of James, it is our belief that this may be our John(b.1823) Stewart, who would have been only nine years old, when his mother, Margaret, married James Archibald, so may have assumed the last name Archibald, during his years at home, at least on census. There is no proof of this, but it is a possibility to consider. @
I am happy to report that in December of 2007, a direct descendant of Janet Stewart, has agreed that this VERY PROBABLY is our Archibald household and that the John Archabald listed, is most likely Janet Stewart's little brother, John Stewart. @
The next child, on the list in this household, is named Margaret, perhaps like her mother's? She would have been born about 1833... just after the marriage of Margaret Haldane and James Archibald, so this could be their first child, rather than Ann(b.1835) (Archibald) McColl, as previously believed, prior to discovery of this census. And this child would have been a half-sister to our John(b.1823) and an Aunt to his children. This becomes more significant later on. @
Also worthy of mention is the fact that the name, Isabell, in many variations of spelling, has been used in our John(b.1823) Stewart family line, though neither his mother nor his wife, Mary's, mother bear that name, as her name was Mary (Moss) McMillan, with all three of her names being passed down, to my grandmother, Mary Moss McMillan Stewart(b.1896). Yet, our John(b.1823) named one of his many daughters, Isabella, which also follows the naming tradition; naming daughters after parental sisters, once the grandparents' and parents' forenames have been honored. @
Now we come to a six-year-old daughter named, Ann, which places her birth at about 1835...about means about, it could have been 1836. Compiler, John(b.1926) Duncan, understandably with limited resources, initially believed that Ann(b.c.1835) Archibald was the only child born of Margaret and James Archibald, but she may well have been the second, with child Margaret preceeding her. If that is the case, with Margaret being named for Margaret(b.1795) Haldane Archibald, could Ann be the name of James' mother or grandmother? @
Lastly we come to a one-year-old, named Janet(b.1840) Archibald. It is not inconceivable that James and Margaret had three daughters born to their marriage. Another possibility is that this child is the daughter of the 25 year old Isabella Archibald. Unfortunately, the 1841 census did not cite relationships to the head of household. More research is required on this potential daughter. And speaking of daughters, Margaret(b.1795) Haldane and Charles(b.c.1795) Stewart's first child, was a daughter named Janet Stewart, born in 1821, named after Margaret's mother. That daughter would be about nineteen or twenty years old, at the time of this 1841 census, yet she is not in the household, on this census night. Has she married? Is she living in another household, perhaps as an employee? @
Searching that same census year, in other households, for Janet(b.1821) Stewart, Deb found another Archibald household, with a Janet Stewart in residence. Could this be our Janet Stewart? The head of that family is also a shoemaker by trade, an Alexander Archibald, who is between twenty and twenty-four years old, as follows: @
1841 Census, Gallowgate St, Glasgow Alexander Archibald, 20, Shoemaker J (journeyman), b Lanarkshire
Elizabeth Archibald, 15, Cotton P S, , b Lanarkshire (Power Spinner?)
Edward Archibald, 15, Shoemaker App, , b Lanarkshire (apprentice)
Janet Stewart, 15, Cotton P S, , b Lanarkshire
Deb points out that we must always bear in mind that those listed as 15, could be as much as 19, and it is also possible that Elizabeth was either Alexander's wife or his sister, but most likely his wife. @
Janet Stewart and Elizabeth Archibald had the same occupation. Perhaps, after the death of her father, or other unknown alternative reason for the seperation of her parents, Charles(b.c.1795) Stewart and Margaret(b.1795) Haldane, Janet and her younger brothers, John and Charles, were raised in the James Archibald household and when she came of age to seek employment, was aided by Archibald relatives, which included residence with them, to access that employment? @
If that is the case, then the question raised is: What, if any, relationship exists between the husband of Margaret(b.1795) Haldane, James Archibald, a shoemaker and this other Archibald household whose males are also shoemakers? At this time we have not yet found the link, but given the ages involved, it may prove out that James Archibald is either cousin or Uncle to the two younger Archibalds, Alexander and Edward, if not father, through a previous marriage? @
Hopefully, we will find evidence to either prove or disprove these proposals. Truth be told, at this point, there is no positive proof that the Janet Stewart found in the 1841 Alexander Archibald household is in fact, our Janet Stewart. But it is the most viable listing found so far. It is significant to point out that there is no blood relationship between our Janet(b.1821) Stewart and the Archibalds, as she is the daughter of Charles and Margaret (Haldane) Stewart. That fact becomes pertinent because in the next Census, ten years later, we see that Edward(b.abt.1823) Archibald and Janet(b.1821) Stewart did marry and set up their own household. @
Thankfully, in response to the above paragraph, great light has been shed upon what could be a very confusing family of multiple connections! That light beams forth from our latest contributer, to this slowly growing site, who wishes to be known merely as, our "Scottish Cousin, Rhona"... which may or may not be his/her real name, as the "Glaswegians are 'Pure Dead Brilliant,'" therefore if anomenity is desired, it shall be established and granted, though it is the hope of this webmistress, that this shall not always be the desired case, as I do prefer to give credit, where credit is due. I confess that I do yearn to know of my kin... they from Then, as well as they, from Now then... so but for this Now, such a choice is accepted and respected, as a rightful precaution, reflective of our internet times.
With that said, the sharing is no less significant. In fact, it is greatly significant and appreciated! Thanks to Rhona, with the following, we learn that, our Margaret Haldane's first born daughter, Janet(b.1821) Stewart, did marry on 22nd June 1845, in Glasgow, her step-father's nephew, Edward Archibald(b.1821), son of Edward Alexander Archibald(b.1779) and Janet Morton.
From Rhona, Dated: 21 & 22 Dec. 2007: "Yes, as far as I can figure out, James Archibald(b.1784) who married Margaret Haldane(b.1795) is a brother to my Great-Great-Great-Grandfather, Edward Alexander Archibald(b.1779).... both being sons of
ALEXANDER ARCHIBALD AND JANET RALTON who were originally from Linlithgow, which is in the Lothians, near Edinburgh, Scotland.
Our "JAMES ARCHIBALD is the son of :
ALEXANDER ARCHIBALD AND JANET RALTON
Extract from the Old Parish Record
Marriage 19th February 1771 Linlithgow"
"Alexander Archibald and Janet Ralton were irregularly married
and give in line of the same.
Dated at Edinburgh, February 19th 1771."
Note: "Alexander Archibald was a shoemaker…
as noted in his children’s baptismal records.
Children All born in Linlithgow :
John 1772
William 1774
Ann 1777
Edward Alexander 1779
[ Note: Edward Alexander is Future Father-in-law of Janet Stewart. ]
Hamilton 1781
James 1784
[ Note: James is Future Second Husband to Margaret Haldane. ]
Janet 1786
Janet 1788
Ann 1791 "
"So you see, our James started life in Linlithgow before moving to Glasgow. The reason for the move? Who knows, perhaps chasing work although I would have thought the demand for shoemakers would be the same wherever you lived. ‘ My theory’ is that JAMES ARCHIBALD...a brother to my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather, EDWARD ALEXANDER ARCHIBALD, and (futhermore) Margaret Haldane was introduced into the Archibald household through marriage to James. Margaret’s daughter, Janet Stewart (from her first marriage to Charles) then went on to marry one of Edward Alexander’s sons. Hope you’re following all this. I know it sounds complicated, but I’ve been doing this quite a long time and I’ve satisfied myself I’ve got it right."
Dated: 22 Dec. 2007: "Although I was satisfied that the two Archibald brothers were connected, the deciding factor in linking all these people to the same Archibald family came when I found, several generations later in my Archibald research, a child who was given the forename HAMILTON. This is obviously a family name and if you look again at the last letter list, of James Archibald’s siblings, you will see a brother baptised with the forename HAMILTON."
Dated: 22 Dec. 2007: "Does all that make sense? If not, please don’t hesitate to ask for clarification. By the way, it gets even more complicated. The above Janet and Edward (married 1845) go on to have several children among whom is another Edward Archibald who goes on to marry….(who would believe it) ANOTHER Janet Stewart!!!! That was a real headache for me trying to keep track. "
I can certaintly see why and again, thanks for that, as I do recall coming across such an occassion and marveling that more than one Edward Archibald, had married more than one, Janet Stewart! :) @
Dated: 21 Dec. 2007: "I was just thinking, I must be related to both Margaret Haldane (3xGt Grandmother) AND James Archibald (3x Gt Uncle) a double whammy. "
INDEED YOU ARE, Dear Scottish Cousin...! :) The good news, as I have discovered in some of my own lines, is that It does save some time, in research, when that happens... heehee... @
Dated: 22 Dec. 2007: "I’m enjoying my little foray in among the Archibalds. It’s been a while since I looked at their research as I’m also researching my other three family parental lines and tend to jump back and forth as the mood takes me. I have other very interesting family connections concerning two 3x Gt Grandfathers who both fought at the battle of Waterloo in 1815 and I have their army papers to prove it.
You are teasing this genealogist terribly, please realize that, Dear Scottish Cousin...heeheee..Hopefully you will share more on that later... as I do want this site to be of interest and value to all of our descendants... so that includes all of yours... :) @
Dated: 21 Dec. 2007: "Hope this little bit of information helps establish the origins of the Archibalds and may be of use to the extended Archibald line with regards to the descendents of Ann Archibald (1835)."
"For your interest, I’m including a well known poem, here in Scotland, which I feel could apply to people of Scottish descent, wherever they may have travelled to and settled thereafter."
SCOTLAND
This is my country,
The land that begat me.
These windy places
Are surely my own.
And those who here toil
In the sweat of their faces
Are flesh of my flesh,
And bone of my bone....
by Sir Alexander Grey.
Your Scottish cousin.Thank you Dear "Scottish Cousin", aka "Rhona" for caring enough to research and to share the above Archibald Family clarification, for our sakes (the living) and our future descendants' sakes. And thank you too, for the lovely poem! It is very difficult to explain to someone who is NOT of Scottish descent, why tears of joy and saddness arise, at the very sound of bagpipes or why our spirits soar with joy, at the sound of a Scotsman... this poem explains it beautifully and perfectly! The love of Scotland is in our very creation, as gift of our ancestors...:) So thank you from the soul, Dear Scottish Cousin, for sharing! :) @
While the Original Compiler, John(b.1926) Duncan, of Australia, and I, his Texas Cousin, Colleen Cahoon, can access "clues" or "potential" candidates in limited source reviews, neither of us can financially follow through, to obtain subscriptions or documents, that lend to clarity or certainty. The potentials, however, are strong enough that they should be mentioned, in the event others may be able to research deeper, to validate or invalidate, as the case may be. @
In trying to find out who Edward Archibald's parents were, the following reference was found, which in conjunction with the shared knowledge of Rhona, mentioned above, we now know this is our kin's reference, showing again the wedding date of Edward(b.1821) Archibald and Janet(b.1821) Stewart, as well as his date of death and verifying the names of his parents. @
EDWARD ARCHIBALD,
Death: 22 APR 1884,
Marriage: 22 JUN 1845, Glasgow, , , Scotland,
Father: EDWARD ALEXANDER ARCHIBALD,
Mother: JANET MORTON @And searching by Janet Stewart, rather than Edward Archibald, a similar reference is found in IGI : @
JANET STEWART, Marriages: EDWARD ARCHIBALD,
Marriage: 22 JUN 1845, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland @The parents of Janet Stewart were not listed in the above reference but the source information is: Batch Number: 7410120 Sheet: 77 Source Call No.: 0934223 Type: Film @
The marriage location seems right, as does the date, which seems to coincide with the birth, of the first child listed in the following 1851 Census, which does reveal relationships and which in this case proves significant because in residence is a Mother-In-Law, to the head of household, named Margaret Archibald, whom Deb and I highly suspect is our Margaret Haldane.: @
1851 census 644-1 (561) Ed 7 p3-4 (St. John)
6 Campbell Street.
Edward ARCHIBALD, head, marr, 28, shoemaker, b Glasgow, LKS
Janet ARCHIBALD, wife, marr, 30, ----b Glasgow, LKS [a Janet STEWART]
Margaret ARCHIBALD, daur, 7, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS
Edward ARCHIBALD, son, 3, -----b Glasgow, LKS
Margaret ARCHIBALD, mother-in-law, widow, 53, ----b Kinross,STI [sic]
Margaret ARCHIBALD, sister-in-law, u/m 16, worker in a factory, b Glasgow, LKS
Jane ARCHIBALD, sister, u/m 32, power loom weaver, b Glasgow, LKS
Jane McLEAN, stranger, 6mos, ----b Glasgow, LKS@
I, Colleen Cahoon, Great-Great-Great-Grand Daughter of Margaret Haldane's, would love to know more about the child "stranger" listed above, as on my Maternal Line, our McLaines (McLean) originated in Aberfoyle Scotland, with the one to immigrate to America being William McLean, in the very early 1700's. Any additional information on this child would be greatly appreciated! And that leads to the speculation that the child may have been born of Edward's older sister, Jane. This is the first time that we learn that James and his brother, Alexander, from the previous census had this sister and they may surely have others. :) @
Notice that Margaret (Haldane) ARCHIBALD is widowed by 1851 and she is now residing with her daughter and son-in-law, along with Janet's half-sister Margaret (b.abt.1833..according to previous census, but born abt.1835 by this one) Archibald, who is single, but daughter Ann is elsewhere, perhaps in employment, or perhaps simply visiting somewhere this census night... now back to John(b.1926) Duncan: @
Once again, inspired by the above, Scottish Cousin Rhona, stepped up and responded to the above, with further information about Margaret(b.1795) Haldane and James Archibald's daughter, Margaret(c.1833) Archibald. That will follow soon, but first lets return to the orginal compiler, John Duncan.
When I started this Family History, it was based upon the letters circulating between family members, whom, I am not surprised to find out, presumably knew less about our family history than this compiler does today. One of the red herrings that was dragged across the path of my erratic research, was the statement attributed to Kathleen Robinson that:- "Kathleen Robinson advises that her grandmother, Mary [Stewart] McKenzie, was the only child of her mother - the first wife of John Stewart".
Thanks to Dr. Janet Clarke, who supplied me with the Genealogical Tree of Francis McCulloch, Stocking-Frame Maker in Glasgow, I now know that John Stewart's first wife was Agnes McCulloch a grand-daughter of the said Frances McCulloch. The marriage of Agnes McCulloch to John Stewart, a Tailor, took place on 12 May 1844 and they resided at 29 Stirling Street, Glasgow. The Tree also records that their daughter Mary, married John McKenzie, and that they resided at 3 Percy Road, Whitley, Near Tynemouth, England. This Tree does not record a birth-date for daughter Mary, but from a number of other records we have established that Mary was born on 10 Jan 1844, which birth-date presents a problem to us - ( not really a problem to this transcriber ) which to date remains unsolved- as Mary's parents were not joined in holy matrimony until four month's later!
However, an even stranger event, which flew in the face of family stories to the contrary, was the recording of a son, " Charles Stewart, Salt Lake City, U.S. [address per father]". No date of birth recorded. My cousins maintained that this advice about a son, Charles, must be an error, probably a confusion with a later grandson of John's, also named Charles, who emigrated to Canada with his parents. But I did not buy this red herring and continued with my research.
It is well that John(b.1926) Duncan, did not accept the supposition that the union of John(b.1823) and Agnes (McCulloch) Stewart resulted in only one child. Following is the John(b.1823) Stewart household in the Census year of 1851. Of course we would be expecting to see his wife listed as Agnes, but unfortunately their marriage began and ended between the 1841 and 1851 Census periods. However, two children are present. A daughter, Mary, listed as an eight-year-old, born about 1843 or 1844, depending on the census and birth months. This is of course, the acknowledged daughter of Agnes McCulloch. Also listed, however, is a son, Charles, a six-year-old, which places his birth at about 1846, and notice he and his sister were both born in Govan. @
1851 Census 644-1 (550) Ed 16 p 1
(Outer High or St Pauls) 11 George Street.
John STEWART, head, marr, 28, tailor, b Glasgow City Parish.
Mary STEWART, wife, marr, 28, -------b Greenock.
Mary STEWART, daur, 8, ---------b Glasgow, Govan.
Charles STEWART, son, 6, --------b Glasgow, Govan.
John STEWART, son, 1, ----b Glasgow. @
Ten years later we find living alone, on the Parish, which means on Relief: @
1861 Census 644-4 Ed 30 p 10 (Calton)
43 St. Mungo Street.
Margaret ARCHIBALD, head,
widow, 66,
on the parish, b Kinross, FIF [living by herself] @
Deb points out that Edward Archibald in 1861, is now living on the same street that the James Archibald household resided on, in 1841, which may or may not be a coincidence. @
1861 Census 644-2 Ed 63 p 1 (St James) @
44 Little Dovehill Street.
Edward ARCHIBALD, head, marr, 40, shoemaker, b Glasgow, LKS
Janet ARCHIBALD, wife, marr, 39, ------b Glasgow, LKS
Margaret ARCHIBALD, daur, 16, powerloom cotton weaver, b Glasgow, LKS
Edward ARCHIBALD, son, 12, shoemaker (ap), b Glasgow, LKS
William ARCHIBALD, son, 4, --------------b Glasgow, LKS
Henry SMITH, a nursling, 8mos, -------------b Glasgow, LKS
1861 Census 644-6 Ed 63 p 5 (Blythswood) @
31 Renfrew Lane.
John STEWART, head, marr, 37, tailor, b Glasgow.
Mary STEWART, wife, marr, 38, ----------b Greenock.
Charles STEWART, son, 15, tailor, b Glasgow.
Ann STEWART, daur, 5, -------------b Glasgow.
Isabella STEWART, daur, 3, ------b Glasgow.
John STEWART, son, 1, ---------b Glasgow.
You will notice that in both the 1851 and 1861 Census, for the John(b.1823) Stewart household, there is a one-year-old son listed, by the name of John. This is not a clerical error. Two sons were born and more on this will follow, but for the moment we are focusing on Margaret Haldane and will return to John's household, soon. @
Below is the tragic evidence of the hardships endured by Margaret Haldane, twice widowed. There are references to prior reports, which could have been a gold mine of information, if available, but unfortunately those records are no longer available and it is not clear as to exactly why, other than statement of "records not surviving" time. @
Glasgow Poor Relief Application.
D-HEW. 10 / 4 / 28. page 367. N° B19498.
Applied 2.45 pm 11 April 1864.
Margaret Haldane Archibald.
332 Gallowgate. Far outside stair, 2 up left.
Born - Scotland, Kinross.
Inspector's visit - 12.30 pm. 12 Apr 1864.
Widow, age 73, occupation - sewer. (per Deb, perhaps for John.)
Disabled by age & bad eye sight.
Children - not dependant.
Janet 42, married + 4 children, husband a Gutta Percha worker.
John 40, married + 4 children, a tailor, sometimes gives 6d.
Margaret 32, married + 3 children, in Australia, husband a tailor.
Ann 29, married + 1 child, in America, husband a tenter.
Previous application - 39339. Settlement - Glasgow.
Was on the funds of this parish, fell, Roll at 2/- wkly from
March 1855 till 1st Dec last when she was offered House by committee.
The asst inspector on visiting her having found a drunk woman
lying in her house.
She resides with her married daur Janet.
See letter from ex Baillie Gilmour.
Particulars of Settlement -
See former report in Dist 2 for July 1848, p 120.
See former report in Dist 4, Vol 7, p 305.
See former report in Dist 4, Renewals p 193.
64 / 14 / 4. 4/-? 16/3/66 House at own request.
30/3/66. Died in House. @
Following is a copy of Margaret Haldane's death certificate, which has been shared by Rhona, our Scottish Cousin, wherein we see foremost that Margaret Haldane died March 29th, 1866, in the poor house and the preceeding report was submitted March 30th, 1866.
Noteworthy is the absence of mention of her second son, Charles(b.1826) Stewart. Has he perished? Also to note is the fact that there seems to be some conflicting information, revealed on this report. Margaret Haldane Archibald states that her daughter, Margaret... not Ann... immigrated to Australia. In fact she further states that Ann immigrated to the United States. @
The RED FLAGG is raised...: Did Margaret Haldane simply have a senior moment and confused the whereabouts of her migrant daughters, or did she have the facts straight? The McColl descendants of Annie (Archibald) and Malcolm McColl would attest that a clerical error has certaintly been made, as they ARE the descendants of Annie Archibald, who migrated to Australia!! @
Indeed it does unfold further that it was a clerical error, as Margaret married Archibald Sinclair, and they did move to the United States, settling in Conway, Massachusetts.
Welcomed case in point. On 22 July 2007, Jezzmo received an email from Kenneth Campbell McColl, Great-Great-Great Grandson of Margaret Haldane, direct descendant of Ann ( Archibald ) McColl, who shares the following: @
" I think that it is highly likely that she or the inspector got the details of Margaret and Anne mixed up, as I know for certain that Ann had four children ( John James b. 1859, Margaret Anne b. 1861, Alexander Edward b. 1862, and Anne Jane b. 1864 ) by 1864 and it is likely that she (Margaret Haldane) may not have known about Anne Jane when the inspector visited. @
It has been sad for me to find out that Margaret Haldane had died a Pauper in 1866, as another of my g.g.g grandmothers died in the Melbourne Benevolent Asylum (a fancy name for what was in reality an equivalent of a Poor House) in Victoria, here in Australia, during 1860, after having migrated in 1853, with her children...Regards, Ken, Canberra, Australia"... @
Thank you Cousin Kenneth Campbell McColl, for sharing! That is what this website is about... sharing and learning about our Ancestors... so I do appreciate your interest and response. I too was greatly saddened to learn of Margaret's fate... I do not understand why she did not live with her son, John, or daughter, Janet, whom she had lived with for so many years, except perhaps by her own choice... no longer able to be of assistance within the household and desiring not to be a burden, during times which were surely strained and difficult for all the working families... lending to the migration of so many of our ancestors... beginning in these, her declining, years. Sincerely, Colleen (MO), also a Great-Great-Great-Grandchild of Margaret (nee Haldane)Stewart Archibald. @
Margaret Haldane's daughter, Janet, is listed as being married to a Gutta Percha worker, not a shoemaker, which threw me off at first. However, a Gutta Percha worker is one who works with rubber, so if this is Edward, perhaps he is specializing in the making of rubber heels and soles, for the shoemaking industry. @
Janet is listed as having four children and according to the 1861 Census, there are four children in residence and the child listed as Henry Smith is later referenced as Henry Archibald, so Smith may have been either a middle name, or he may have been adopted, perhaps as a relative born out of wedlock? Which realistically, did happen on occassion, despite the times. @
The report also mentions that pre-existing reports date back to 1848, which may suggest that James Archibald died that year. These previous reports can not be located and are listed as having not survived. @
I do not have an 1871 Census for the Edward Archibald household, but Deb found them in 1881: @
1881 Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland @
Dwelling: 20 Nth Cumberland St
Source: FHL Film 0203643 GRO Ref Volume 644-4 EnumDist 49 Page 11
Edward ARCHIBALD M 60 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Shoemaker
Janet ARCHIBALD M 60 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife
Henry ARCHIBALD U 20 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Shoemaker
Charles ARCHIBALD U 18 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Carpet Weaver
John (b.1823) Stewart's household in 1881: @
1881 Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Dwelling: 29 Stirling Street
Source: FHL Film 0203646 GRO Ref Volume 644-5 EnumDist 25 Page 2
John STEWART MARR 57 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Mas Tailor (1 Man & 1 Boy)
Isabella STEWART U 23 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
Christina STEWART U 19 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
Edward STEWART U 18 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Printer Compositor
Mary McMillan is not present for this census, as she was visiting her step-daughter, Mary(b.1844) (Stewart) MacKenzie in England. @
John(b.1823) and Agnes (McCulloch) Stewart's son, Charles (b.1846) Stewart, who was also a tailor: @
1881 Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland
Dwelling: 390 Caledonia Road
Source: FHL Film 0203672 GRO Ref Volume 644-11 EnumDist 91 Page 2
Charles STEWART M 35 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Tailor & Clothier (Master Employing 2 Men)
Janet STEWART M 28 F Beith, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Wife
Jessie STEWART 4 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
John STEWART 3 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son
Charles STEWART 1 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son
Margaret GRAY U 17 F Springburn, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: General Serv
Returning to John(b.1926) Duncan, the original compiler of this information, we see that the information available on Margaret Haldane's Poor Relief application, may very well have been a matter of error, with regard to the whereabouts of her second and third daughters, Margaret and Ann Archibald.
Margaret Haldane, now Margaret Archibald, gave birth to a daughter, born 1836 in Glasgow, Annie Archibald #66, whom we know emigrated to Melbourne, Australia, and there married Scotsman, Alexander McColl#69 in 1858. Annie was a spinster aged 22, employed as a servant, and Alexander was a tailor, aged 28.
We do not know whether the couple met in Scotland, or met when they both travelled on the same ship, or whether the meeting took place in Melbourne.
Alexander McColl was born at Kilmally, Fort William, Scotland, on 16 Feb 1826 and died in Melbourne on 17 Dec 1890, aged 64 years 10 months, and his wife Annie survived him, almost twenty years, until she died on 17 Apr 1919, aged 83 Years 10 months. Chapter Three, The Australian McColls, gives full particulars of their marriage, their children and grandchildren.
Just a wee observation on the above information. Given the dates above, it appears that Alexander may have fudged about his age, on his marriage certificate? If born in 1826, then he would have been closer to the age of 32 years, rather than 28 years, at time of marriage...perhaps he did not care to have it known that he was 10 years older than his bride? Not that it should matter, as that is not an unusual age difference between husband and wife, but even with the obvious possibility of clerical error or "vanity", such things should be noted, as observation, and may warrant further investigation. @
Margaret Haldane's son John(b.1823) Stewart #61 was married twice. John married Agnes McCulloch on 12 May 1844 at Gorbals, a suburb of Glasgow. { IGI record Batch No. M119357, Dates: 1842-1850, Source call No.: 1042982, Printout Call No.: 6901706 }.
They had three daughters named Margaret, Alice and Mary. We know little more of Margaret & Alice, although Malcolm McMillan Duncan, the compiler's uncle advised that "a step-sister of my mother Isabel Stewart married a Mr. Alex Colburn who had a very posh tailor's shop in the Stock Exchange Square in Glasgow, he was also a fiend for punishment having married four times." This Square has since been re-named, after the former South African President - Nelson Mandella Square [Place?]
Several notes here. The above information is in part, true. One of our Stewarts did marry a Mr. Alexander Colburn. That relative however was one that the compiler and some of the other family researchers had not yet discovered, or had discovered, but did not pursue. @
Todate, (18 May 2007) there is not valid evidence of the existence of daughters, Margaret or Alice, believed to have been born of John Stewart and Agnes McCulloch. @
Memories of our family are very, very important, but as proven below, are not always entirely accurate. They certaintly can, however, direct us with clues to pursue, to resolve the mysteries! @
Mary(b.1844) (nee Stewart) MacKenzie,, shown above, is at this point, in my humble opinion, the only daughter, born of Agnes (nee McCulloch) and John Stewart Their son, Charles(b.1846), possibly* shown below, is also the product of that marriage. I could certaintly be wrong, but at this point, for a marriage of less than four years time, these are most likely the only children born of that marriage. @
The above may be John Stewart's Grandson, rather than son; we do not know for sure. We know it is one of our Charles Stewarts; he is in America; and the clothing does suggest the midwest. But the Stewart Family Group Portrait which shows John's son, Charles, as an adult looks similar to the above young man, but older. That group photo is presumed to have been taken as a rememberance for Charles to take with him, to America. So if anything, he should look older in his American photos, not younger. We hope at some time to be able to date this photo, through the clothing, to determine if this is John's Son, or Grandson, Charles Stewart.
Provision of any evidence, that documents, that Agnes McCulloch and John(b.1823) Stewart gave issue to a total of four live children, three of which were daughters Mary, Margaret and Alice, is welcome, but as yet nothing to that effect has surfaced. Technically, of course it would have been possible, but it is not probable. However, if they were born, then why did only Mary (the first born) and Charles (who would have had to have been the third born) live with their father? Where were these other sisters? Perhaps if born at all, they would have had to have died, as infants, and would not have been "remembered" at all, by either Mary or Charles really, where Mary would have been only one years old, for the birth of the first and still only three years old for the last? @
Perhaps time has simply lead to some confusion in this matter? Not only does John(b.1823) Stewart have a half-sister, Margaret(b.1832) Archibald, but also a niece named Margaret Archibald, daughter of his sister, Janet! Also there is evidence that mystery daughters, did exist, three in fact! @
These three girls were issue of John Stewart and his second wife, Mary McMillan, not of Agnes, his first wife. @
For some unknown reason John’s first marriage was terminated, and he married Mary Mosse McMillan #63, the great grandmother of the compiler, and the mother of John Stewart #256, Isabella Napier Stewart #13, Christina Stewart #438, and Edward Archibald Stewart #64. This second marriage took place on 29 Oct 1848, at Gorbals, a suburb of Glasgow. { IGI Record: Batch No.: M119357, Dates 1842-1850, Source call No.: 1042982, Printout call No.: 6901706. }
John Stewart #256 was born on 06 Jan 1860 at Anderson, Glasgow. { IGI Record Batch No.: C119311, Dates 1855-1875, Source call No.: 6035516. }
Isabella Napier Stewart #13 was born on 14 Nov 1857 at Central District, Glasgow. { IGI Record Batch No.: C116441, Dates: 1855-1874, Source call No.: 6035516 }
Christina Stewart #438 was born on 21 Mar 1862 at Milton, Glasgow. { IGI Record, Batch No.: C119281, Dates 1855-1875, Source call No.: 6035516 }
Edward Archibald Stewart #64 (Colleen Cahoon's Great Grandfather) was born 05 Jul 1865 at Bridgeton, Glasgow. { IGI Record. Batch No.: C119201, Dates 1855-1875, Source call No.: 6035516 }While the Compiler is absolutely correct on the above children of John(b.1823) and Mary Moss (McMillan) Stewart, they are not the only children of this devoted marriage. @
Four children preceeded the birth of John(b.1860), a son and three daughters. Perhaps it is these daughters, born before all surviving others, except the two children of Agnes McCulloch, Mary and Charles, who have been "remembered" as Margaret and Alice? @
Genealogist, Deborah Robertson, of Glasgow, Scotland, on behalf of myself, Colleen Cahoon, found several very significant documents, which lead to the awareness of these four mystery children. @
The most relevant being, the birth registration of Ann Archibald Stewart, born in the 4th hour of the a.m., on the 5th day of September, in 1855, at 24 Clyde Street, Calton District, Glasgow, Scotland, as registered by her grandmother, Margaret(b.1795) Archibald, who is indeed our very own Margaret Haldane, now going of course, by her married name, of Archibald. @
It shall be that daughter, Ann Archibald(b.1855) Stewart, who later marries Alex Colburn. More details on that, below. @
The marriage of Margaret(b.1795) Haldane and James(b.bef.1791) Archibald explains of course the middle name for this granddaughter of Margaret's, as her children would have spent a goodly part of their growing up years, within the James Archibald household, though it is hoped that they all had fond memories of their father. @
John(b.1823) Stewart had traditionally honored his biological father, Charles(b.abt.1795) Stewart, with the naming of his first son, Charles(b.1846) Stewart. Following tradition, John then named his second son, (and third, as explained later) after himself, John. Perhaps it was time to honor his step-father, hence the name, Ann(b.1855) Archibald Stewart, and ten years later, Edward(b.1865) Archibald Stewart, shown below, (Colleen's Great Grandfather). Too, Ann, born of 1855, may well have been named after John's half-sister, Ann(b.1835) Archibald, as they were very close, as siblings, according to many family accounts. @
On the 1855 Registration, Ann's father is listed as John Stewart, Tailor (Journeyman), aged 31 years, born in Glasgow, Scotland. In the column duo-headed, "When and where married; Issue, living and deceased", the following is revealed: 1848, Johnstone, 2 girls living, one boy deceased. CLEARLY three children precedeeded little Ann's arrival! @
This supports our knowledge that John and Mary McMillan married in 1848, though I confess I am not sure what the "Johnstone" refers to. Perhaps they posted their banns of marriage there or perhaps it is where their son was laid to rest? Mother is listed as Mary Stewart, maiden name, McMillan, and that the newborn, Ann, was her fourth child, and that Mother was born in Greenoch, Scotland. Grandmother, Margaret Archibald, signed her mark, which was witnessed by William Barclay and R.C. Hamilton. @
It is significant to mention, that this particular year is the first year that Scotland mandated the registration of births. Furthermore, on this first mandated registration year, the question of maternal prior issue was addressed, to attempt to catch up on the knowledge of prior births. This did not hold true for subsequent registration years. @
Luckily, for us, these two aspects of 1855 Scotland have granted us some insight, which may shed light on the confusion of vague reference to "other" daughters. This information perhaps solves three mysteries and inspires at least one more mystery. @
Perhaps "Alice" is Ann(b.1855) Archibald Stewart, simply remembered 'wrong' or maybe it was a pet name? Ann did appear on the 1861 Census, for the John Stewart (Tailor) household, as a six-year-old and yet no one seemed to reference her, as a member of the family, by the name of Ann... yet I am fairly certain that this child was born of my Great-Great-Grand Parents and her birth registration explains alot of previous oddities. @
Others who have researched our Stewarts may have noticed that on BOTH the 1851 and 1861 Census, a one-year-old son, named John, is listed. @
I originally thought that perhaps the second listing was a simple clerical error, until I saw the 1871 Census, in which son, John, was then listed as an eleven-year-old, when by that time he should have been twenty-one! So as a newcomer to the research, I admit that I was confused, until my Glasgow Angel, Genealogist, Deborah Robertson, found that 1855 birth registration of Ann's. @
With it, we now have a plausible documented explanation for the two sons, named John. The son, John, listed as a one-year-old in the 1851 census, was surely born about 1850 and had apparently and tragically, died as a young child, perhaps even as an infant, but certaintly before 1855. He being the son of Mary (McMillan) and John Stewart, that was listed as deceased, prior to Ann's birth in 1855. @
The one-year-old son, John, listed ten years later, on the 1861 census, is the John that the family, in large part is familar with, who years later immigrated to Canada and was known as "Jack" and was correctly listed as an eleven-year-old, in the 1871 Census. @
Daughter Ann(b.1855) Archibald Stewart, at the age of 15, did not appear on the 1871 census, but her absence has been explained by John Bradbury Robinson, our cousin from England, a direct descendant of Mary(b.1844) (Stewart) MacKenzie #62, who was the daughter of John(b.1823) Stewart and his first wife, Agnes McCulloch. Cousin John B. Robinson has discovered evidence that places Ann(b.1855) Archibald Stewart in the MacKenzie household, in England, that year, visiting her half-sister. @
Cousin John B. Robinson sent me the following information, May of 2007: "Following yesterday's email I have solved the problem. Marriage certificate located in Scots Origins. Annie Stewart married Alexander Colburn on June 19th 1876, at Blackfriars Baptist Church, same as Isabella & Christina, (her full sisters...cc) both were living at 29 Stirling street (John Stewart's residence...cc) his occupation was Tailor (Journeyman), so it appears he was marrying the boss's (John Stewart's...cc) daughter." @
John B. Robinson went on to reveal, "Unfortunately Annie died the following year, on 13th May 1877, of Acute Nephritis 26 days (Kidney infection) & Pneumonia 7 days." @
Having found this long unrecognized daughter, I too was grievously sad to hear of her death. John B. Robinson and I both had hoped she had participated in providing yet another branch, of our ever-budding Scottish Family. Sadly, she died at age 22, apparently without children. @
John B. Robinson's follow up investigation of Alexander Colburn went on to reveal that he married several more times, with his second wife also dying young, but none of his children appear to have been issue of our dear Ann. @
So the mystery of which Stewart married Alex Colburn, has been solved. Explanation of why there were two one-year-old sons, both named John, born of parents John(b.1823)and Mary (McMillan) Stewart has been provided; the first son died and the second was born ten years later. @
Now at this point of the puzzle, we have the mystery of who were the two "living daughters" who preceeded Ann(b.1855) Archibald Stewart in birth, born of John and Mary (McMillan) Stewart, as documented on Ann's birth registration. @
Genealogist Deborah Robertson, of Glasgow, discovered a death registration for Agnes Stewart, born of John and Mary (McMillan) Stewart, as probably their second daughter, with Ann(b.1855) being the third. @
Agnes was born one year prior to Ann, sometime in 1854, and had been alive at the time of Ann's birth, in 1855, and thereby being one, of the two, preceeding living daughters of Mary and John. Sadly, in the 8th evening hour of May 6th, 1858, four-year-old Agnes died at their residence on/in Candleriggs, Glasgow, Scotland. @
Agnes Stewart's parents are listed as John Stewart, Tailor (Journeyman) and Mary (maiden name McMillan) Stewart. Poor John registered the death of his child. The cause of her death is listed as Mesenteric Disease, which little Agnes had suffered from, for three months, as certified by Miller, M.D., on the 22nd of April. @
Precious child Agnes was buried in Southern Necropolis Cemetery, Glasgow, Scotland in the Lair owned by her father. Years later, both parents joined her in that Lair. @
This now leaves us with one mystery female Stewart child, born of John and Mary. It is most likely that she was born between John, the first son, and second daughter, Agnes. @
This daughter did not appear on the 1851 Census, only three years after the marriage of John Stewart and Mary McMillan, though their then one-year old son, John was listed. Also listed were the two children born of John Stewart and Agnes McCulloch; Mary(b.1844) Stewart who later married John MacKenzie and also listed as present was her full brother, Charles(b.1846) Stewart. @
So our mystery girl must have been born after that 1851 census date, but before sisters Agnes and Ann, 1854 and 1855, so probably late 1851, anytime in 1852, or very early 1853. This would make her the first born daughter, of Mary (McMillan) and John(b.1823) Stewart. @
It is very possible that she was actually named Margaret, after John's mother, according to Scottish naming tradition. Or after Mary's mother, Mary (Moss) McMillan. Or perhaps in combination of the two, as Mary Margaret? As of May 2007, her existence is established, but her name is not yet known and we do not know any other details. @
Further research may sadly reveal that she too died, as a very young child, but until that is proven to be the case, it is possible to hope that the young girl did survive and simply missed being listed in the 1861 household, because she was visiting her half-sister, in England, or perhaps some other relative? @
By 1871, this daughter could have been between 18 and 20 years of age and possibly living on her own, or as married, or in the household of someone else, as an employee. Now back to John(b.1926) Duncan's compilation. @
Mary Stewart #62 is said to have been born in 1846, and certainly married John McKenzie #160 on 10 Nov 1865 at High Church, Paisley. {IGI Record Batch No. M115731, Dates 1855-1875, Source call No. 6035516}
Census data suggests Mary was born closer to 1844. Without intent to defame, because realistically, these things did happen, even with "good people", Mary's birth may have preceeded the marriage of John and Agnes McCulloch, but with that said, I also state, that I have no doubt that Mary was indeed the biological daughter of John Stewart, who responsibly married her mother. @
At the time of writing there is speculation that "Margaret & Alice" may have been born into a previous marriage of Agnes McCulloch? Certainly their Christian names cannot be found given to any Stewart descendants, which is unusual for those times!
I welcome proof of this, however, I am more inclined to believe that the mysterious "Margaret & Alice" were perhaps the previously mentioned daughters of John(b.1823) and Mary McMillan Stewart. The name "Margaret" has actually been given to some of Margaret Haldane's descendants, as cited previously. @
Mrs. Anne Archibald McColl Nicholson [nee Stewart] #121 recalls as a child of less than ten years, "an Aunt Maggie and an Aunt [maybe Susan ?] who lived together and whom I met once or twice at Aunt Bella's home { The compilers grandmother Isabella Napier Duncan, nee Stewart}. I have no idea who they were." { could these two Aunt's have been Margaret & Alice Stewart?}
Perhaps one or the other, but certaintly not the both of them, as there is no other proof of them ever being born of Agnes McCulloch. If one is the missing first daughter of John(b.1823) and Mary McMillan Stewart, then perhaps she was named Margaret? In fact I would love for that to be the case! :) WE need verification, however. And I would like to point out, that Isabella(b.1857) Napier (Stewart) Duncan had an Aunt, or technically a Half-Aunt, named Margaret(b.1833) Archibald, and a cousin also named Margaret Archibald, daughter of Edward and Janet (Stewart) Archibald, so perhaps it was one of those Margarets that the child Ann(b.1908) A.M. (Stewart) Nicholson met, at her Aunt Bella's? @
Perhaps the "Aunt Susan" may have been Susannah (Moore) Stewart, wife of Annie(b.1908) Nicholson's Uncle John(b.1860) Stewart? John and Susannah immigrated to Canada, but supposedly he had gone ahead and Susannah followed later. It would have been financially prudent for Susannah to temporally share expenses, with a willing relative, rather than maintain a household that was going to be abandoned, in order to save towards their relocation, to Canada. Perhaps our Canadian cousins can shed some light on this possibility, for it is just speculation, on my part, offered as a plausable explaination of who my Grand Aunt Annie(b.1908) Nicholson might have met, at her Aunt Bella's. Such offering hopefully tempers John(b.1926) Duncan's following remark, with respect to him and also to my Great Aunt Ann's recollection, not to discredit either, but as sharing viable possibility, of an alternative. @
Compiler's Note: This advice appears to confirm that Agnes McCulloch had other daughters.
Respectfully, it is my humble opinion that perhaps it "suggests" but it does not "confirm" that a Margaret and Alice were ever issue of John(b.1823) Stewart and Agnes McCulloch, nor of Agnes from a prior marriage. @
At the time The Compiler, John(b.1926) Duncan, began ..."Bairns," he was not aware of the following children, which preceeded in birth, all of those that he listed above, as children of John(b.1823) and Mary (McMillan) Stewart. @
1 ] John Stewart, born abt. 1850 and died before 1855. Appeared as a one-year old in the 1851 Census, but does not appear again in future Census, though his brother, above, also named John, appears as a one-year old, in the 1861 census and survived to appear on others. This John's death is alluded to in the birth registry of sister Ann Archibald Stewart, in which it is documented that Mary McMillan and John Stewart had three children born before Ann's birth, in 1855, and they were, two females living, in 1855, and one son, deceased, which would be this son, John. @
2 ] As Yet Unknown Name… Daughter born between John above and the following daughter, Agnes. This child's existence is referenced above and documented, though neither she nor her sister Agnes were cited by actual forenames, only by fact of their existence. @
3 ] Agnes, was born in 1854 and died in 1858, buried within the Lair of John and Mary McMillan Stewart… a copy of her death registry is available and confirms her parents. This discovery also provides us the identity of one of the mystery daughters, referenced in Ann Archibald Stewart's 1855 Birth Registration. @
4 ] Ann Archibald Stewart, was born 05 Sep 1855, Calton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland. {. IGI Record Batch No. C119211, Dates 1855-1875, Source call No. 6035516 REGISTER } Though I am repeating myself, I mention again, this is the year that Scotland initiated mandatory registration of births, which explains in part, why the children preceeding her might not have been registered. @
5 ] John(b.1860) [Jack] Stewart married (Susannah Moore) and emigrated to Toronto, Canada where he is buried. He had three sons: Charlie Stewart #258 who left Canada to live in the U.S.A., John Stewart #259 married to May Riddeagh #256 and a third whose name is unknown.
" John Stewart #259 died from the effects of mustard gas received in the first World War and is buried in Toronto, he had no family."
Thanks to a wonderful GrandNiece of May Riddagh's, Linda Calliou, we are provided additional information on this couple. Following is an extract from her email to Colleen Cahoon, in January 2009:
"May Riddagh, who married John Stewart in 1920 is my grand aunt. Her real name was Marion Hyslop Blaikie Riddagh and she was born in Lanark Scotland. She was my favorite Aunt and a 'mother' figure to my mother whose mother (May's sister) died earlier. I was too young to meet John. But my mother always told stories of how very,very handsome he was and how in love May and him were. My mother said that John died of complications of inhaling mustard gas in the war. My Aunt May never got over his death. She was a good looking lady too, but never looked at another man. I have attached their marriage records. I hope you can open them. My mother also talked about "Mrs. Stewart" who must have been John's mother. I will see if I have any photos that I can share. Linda Calliou.
Linda Calliou also provides us the following documents of John Stewart's military attestation into the Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Forces. Notice that he previously served with the Mississauga Horse, a cavalry unit.
Also to note on his attestation is that John was fair-complected, fair-haired, and blue-eyed, as well as being considerably taller than the average Glaswegian. Linda Calliou, provides us a photo that might help explain that John may have inherited his height from Susannah (Moore), his mother, who is the taller woman, of course!
"This is a picture of my grandmother Annie Riddagh Bell and Mrs. Stewart (John's mother). Annie, real name Mary Anne Blaikie Riddagh, is May's sister. I always get a kick out of how dressed up everyone is in the photos but it was probably a big thing getting your photo taken back in 1920-30. Not like today with the digital photos that can just be deleted. Everyone is posed in the old photos. You don't get any photos of someone sitting down drinking their morning coffee or blowing out their birthday candles. Linda Calliou
More from Linda: I wouldn't be surprised if it was Missisauga Horse Cavalry as part of Toronto is called Mississauga. We have quite a lengthy genealogy. At the moment we are trying to find paper proof that three branches of the Riddagh family from County Derry, Northern Ireland were related. Aunt May was the daughter of Robert Riddagh from County Derry and Annie Blaikie from Scotland. They were atrocious bad spellers back then!!
My mother used to talk about how tall Mrs. Stewart was. She was referring to John's mother who I guess was one of the family and went on outings with the huge Riddagh and Bell family. It must have been funny seeing John (6 foot plus) with May who was under 5 feet tall!
I, Colleen, had noticed that according to the documents, it appears that John had converted from Roman Catholic, the religion of his mother, which he listed as his own on his military attestation, to Presbytarian, according to his wedding certificate. Converting, like his father, for the sake of the woman he loved, no doubt. Linda wrote back:
The mention of John being a Roman Catholic is interesting as the Riddaghs were definitely Protestant. Some of them were members of the Masons. Historically they were religious dissenters from Northern Ireland. I don't think that John and May were big church goers. The rest of the Riddaghs in Canada did not seem to be too religious. Some of the Riddaghs that moved to the States were more involved in different Protestant religions. You are right. You learn a lot of interesting information from old documents that can send you off in a new direction. More later! Linda Calliou
Linda Calliou further advises us that she would welcome contact from anyone who could help her with her family research, on the Riddagh, Bell, and Blaikie lines... the Riddagh lines in particular. She may be emailed at: linda-calliou@shaw.ca and of course, we at jezzmo would love to hear from you as well, at Mo@jezzmo.com
THANK YOU LINDA FOR SHARING! We look forward to learning more about the family lines!!:)
Now back to compiler John Duncan's Bairns:
6 ] Isabella (b.1857) Napier Stewart married Malcolm Duncan #6 on 30 Mar 1882.
7 ] Christina(b.1862) Stewart married Jim Faulds #439 and the little that is known about her family shall be discussed in a later chapter.
8 ] Edward(b.1865) Archibald Stewart married Jessie Smith Young #114 on 28 Dec 1892.
His father's (John(b.1823) Stewart's ) death notice included the following information : Date of death 06 Apr 1894, John Stewart Master Tailor of 63 George St. Glasgow [His shop address] age 68. He was born 23 Dec 1823, the son of Charles Stewart Handloom Weaver and Margaret Haldane. His son, Edward Stewart reported his death. Charles Stewart and Margaret Haldane were married 15 Jun 1820, at Cathcart, Glasgow.
The 1881 Census lists at 29 Stirling St. Glasgow. John Stewart 57 years old Master Tailor, employing one man and one boy. With him on the Census night were Isabella 23 years old no occupation; Christina 19 years old no occupation; Edward 18 years old Printer Compositor. [ The son John "Jack" was not there on the Census night nor is Mary mentioned. ]
John Bradbury Robinson may have a copy of the English 1881 Census that cites Mary (McMillan) Stewart visiting her step-daughter (loved and raised as her own) Mary(b.1844) (Stewart) McKenzie, in England. @
This photograph, which is in the collections of members in Australia, Canada, England, and the U.S.A., has puzzled many who have attempted to identify the people shown in the group. Obviously there are some individuals in the group, whose age would eliminate them from being considered John(b.1823) Stewart's children, and this has raised much speculation as to the possibility that John had three wives. Thanks to the Rev. David Owen Nicholson in supplying factual genealogical information, we now know that John was married twice, the wives and children have been clearly identified, and I shall have another attempt at unravelling the mystery of the individuals in the photograph, further on.
The Great Grandson of John Stewart, Grandson of Mary (Stewart) MacKenzie, Grandson of Jessie (MacKenzie) Gray, Son of Kathleen (Gray) Robinson, Mr. John Bradbury Robinson, feels he has successfully identified everyone in the photo. He based his identification on comparison of other photos in the family collection, census data, and along with birth and marriage data was able to narrow down his identification to all but two of the individuals. When I, Colleen Cahoon, shared the information, discovered by Genealogist Deborah Robertson of Glasgow, of the existence of Mary (McMillan) and John Stewart's daughter, Ann Archibald Stewart born in 1855, John B. Robinson began to investigate marriage records for Ann. Therein finding that she had been listed in England, visiting her half-sister, Mary (Stewart) MacKenzie, during the 1871 Census year and he also discovered her marriage to Alexander Colburn. Thus, John B. Robinson feels he has successfully identified everyone in the photo, as follows: @
1. Charles(b.1846) Stewart,
2. Christina (b.1862) Stewart,
3. John (b.1860) Stewart,
4. Isabella (b.1857) Stewart,
5. John MacKenzie,
6. Mary(b.1844) MacKenzie (Nee Stewart)
7. Janet (Jessie) MacKenzie
(JR's Grandmother, who married Albert Gray),
8. Stewart MacKenzie,
9. Jessie-Janet (nee Smith) Stewart
holding baby, Jessie Stewart,
10. Edward Archibald Stewart
(Colleen's Great Grandfather),
Family Heads, 11. John (b.1823) Stewart and
12. Mary (nee McMillan) Stewart.
We are still investigating who #13 and #14 might be,
but as of May 2007 we are of the mind that they are:
Annie(b.1855) Archibald (nee Stewart)
and husband, Alexander Colburn.
... Thank you J.B.R. !!! @Further Notes:
1] Haldane Stewart McColl #382 [1884 - 1971] wrote: "my mother [ Annie(b.1835) Archibald #66] went to Britain, mainly to see her half-brother, John(b.1823) Stewart #61, who had a tailor shop in George Street, Glasgow."
2] A photograph showing Annie and John together follows this chapter. Shown below.
Moss. One reference is that this is a biblical name, referring to Moses. But it most likely stems from a regional reference to land; from moss; wherein the original family resided in a Mossy Area, perhaps. For sure I will look it up to add more to this section. We do know that John(b.1823) Stewart's wife, Mary McMillan's mother's maiden name was Moss.Additional information on the Scottish Surname Origins within this chapter:
Archibald has spelling variations that include: Archbold, Archbald, Archibaldson, Archibald, Archibold, Harchbald, Arkanbaldus, Archebald and many more. First found in the Scottish county of Roxburghshire, about 30 miles southeast of Edinburgh. Coat of Arms: A silver shield with a silver crescent on a blue bend, between two blue mullets. First found in the Scottish county of Roxburghshire, about 30 miles southeast of Edinburgh. Motto: Ut reficiar. Motto Translated: That I may be replenished.
DUNCAN, spelling variations include: Duncan, Dunecan, Dunkan, Junkan, Junkin, Duncans, Dunkans, Dunckane, Dunkane, Dunekan, Duncin, Duncen, Duncine, Junken and many more. First found in Forfarshire where they were seated from very ancient times, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A.D. Coat of Arms: A red shield with three silver buckles on a gold chevron, between two silver cinquefoils in base and a hunting horn in base.
HALDANE, has spelling variations that include: Haldane, Haldan, Halden, Haldin and others. First found in East Lothian where they were seated from very ancient times, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A.D. @Coat of Arms: A silver shield with a black saltire engrailed.
Motto: Suffer.@
A surname derived from Haldenus, a Dane, who first possessed the lands on the borders called from him, Halden-rig. “In old charters,” says Mr. Alexander Haldane, in his Memoirs of Robert and James A. Haldane, London, 1852), “in the rolls of parliament, and in other public documents, the name is variously written Halden, Haldane, Hadden, or Hauden. There is no doubt that it is of Norse origin.” @
In the 12th century a younger son of the border Haldens of that ilk became possessed of the estate of Gleneagles, Perthshire, by marrying the heiress of that family, and assumed the arms but not the name of Gleneagles. @
In 1296 the name of Aylmer de Haldane of Gleneagles appears in the Ragman Roll as, among the barons who swore fealty to Edward I. Sir Bernard Haldane of Gleneagles married a daughter of William, Lord Seton. His son, Sir John Haldane, in 1460 married Agnes Menteith of Ruskie, one of the two co-heiresses of the half of the lands and honours of her maternal great-grandfather Duncan, last of the ancient Saxon earls of Lennox, beheaded by James I, in 1424, and in consequence assumed their armorial bearings. @
This Sir John Haldane was sent by James III, as Ambassador, to Denmark. He was also master of the king’s household, sheriff principal of the shire of Edinburgh, and lord-justice-general of Scotland beyond the Forth. In 1473 he was allowed to take out brieves in chancery for serving him one of the heirs of Duncan last earl of Lennox, and he had a long and tedious lawsuit with Lord Darnley as to the superiority of the earldom, which was gained by the latter. @
In 1482, when the duke of Gloucester, afterwards Richard III, Of England, invaded Scotland, Sir John Haldane, and three others, were appointed “joint captains, chieftains, keepers, and governors of the town of Berwick, and to defend it against the invasion of our old enemies of England.” The memorable defection, however, of the rebellious nobles at the bridge of Lauder, speedily caused the capitulation of that town. @
Sir John died in 1493. His son, Sir James, was in 1505 appointed keeper of the king’s castle of Dunbar, but died soon after. The son of the latter, also Sir John Haldane, fell at Flodden. @
The Haldanes of Gleneagles gave their hearty support to the Reformation in Scotland, and in 1585, when the earl of Angus and the other banished lords returned from England, the laird of ‘Glennegeis,’ as he is styled by Calderwood, (vol. Iv. P. 390), took a prominent part in what was called “the raid of Stirling,” which had been concocted with the exiled nobles by the master of Gray. He was a prisoner in the town when it was attacked, but was enabled to join the assailants, and assisted in the armed remonstrance with the king, which brought back the banished ministers, and drove the earl of Arran into disgrace and banishment. @
When Sir William Stewart, colonel of the royal guard, was repulsed from the West Port of Stirling, he “was followed so hardlie that Mr. James Haddane, brother-german to the laird of Glennegeis, overtooke him; and as he was laying hands on him, was shott by the colonell’s servant, Joshuah Henderson.” @In 1650 Sir John Haldane of Gleneagles was a leader in the Presbyterian army opposed to Cromwell, and fell in the rout at Dunbar. His successor, also Sir John Haldane, conferred a large portion of the Menteith or Lanrick estates on a younger son, Patrick Haldane. The eldest son, Mungo Haldane of Gleneagles, a member of the Scottish parliament, is mentioned by Nisbet in his account of the gorgeous public funeral of the duke of Rothes, lord-chancellor, in 1681, as in the procession bearing the banner of his relative, the earl of Tullibardine, afterwards marquis of Athol. On his death in 1685 he was succeeded by his son John Haldane, who, previous to the Revolution, sat in the Scottish parliament for Dumbartonshire. @
In 1688 he was a member of the convention parliament, and at the Union was one of the four members for Perthshire. He was the first member for the county of Perth in the first British parliament, and one of the commissioners for settling the equivalents at the union. He took a prominent part in the politics of his day, and on the passing of the Septennial act in 1716, he spoke strongly in its favour. He was twice married: first, to Mary, third daughter of David Lord Maderty; and, secondly, to Helen, only daughter of Sir Charles Erskine of Alva, ancestor of the earls of Rosslyn, and had a large family by both wives. @
His eldest son, successively M.P. for the counties of Perth and Stirling, died in 1757, at the age of seventy-three, unmarried. He was succeeded by his brother, Patrick, who was first professor of history at St. Andrews; then M.P. for the St. Andrews burghs; then solicitor-general; a royal commissioner for selling the forfeited estates; and in 1721 was appointed a lord of session. @
“This appointment,” says Mr. Alexander Haldane,” gave rise to a curious lawsuit as to the right of the Crown to appoint a judge or senator of the college of justice, ‘without the concurrence of the college itself.’ The matter was carried by appeal to the House of Lords (see Robertson’s Appeal Cases, p. 422,) and decided in favour of the Crown; but Patrick Haldane’s right was not insisted on, and he received another appointment. He was objected to as not being a practising advocate, but the pamphlets which appeared on the occasion, (one of them attributed to the celebrated Duncan Forbes of Culloden,) indicate strong political and personal rancour. @
Mr. Patrick Haldane is, amongst other things, not only charged with bribery at his elections, but with having induced his younger brother, James Haldane, then under age, the grandfather of Robert and James Alexander Haldane, to assist in carrying off and imprisoning hostile voters, on pretended charges of high treason and Jacobitism.” [Memoirs, page 8, Note.] Patrick’s only son, George, a brigadier-general in the army, and M.P. for the Dundee and Forfar burghs, died in 1759 governor of Jamaica, predeceasing his father ten years. @
The estate of Gleneagles being very much burdened, was sold to Captain Robert Haldane, a younger brother of the half-blood, who had returned from India, with a large fortune, being the first Scotsman who ever commanded an East India Company’s ship. He also acquired by purchase the estate of Airthrey, near the Bridge of Allan, Stirlingshire, and becoming M.P. for the Stirling burghs, is referred to in the Letters of Junius. @
He died at Airthrey, 1st January 1768, leaving that estate to his nephew, Captain James Haldane, of the Duke of Albany, East Indiaman, and entailling Gleneagles and Trinity Gask, in Perthshire, on the male descendant of his two sisters, Margaret, wife of Cockburn of Ormiston, East Lothian, and Helen, married to Alexander Duncan of Lundie, mother of the celebrated admiral Viscount Duncan, with remainder to his nephew, the said Captain James Haldane. George Cockburn, the son of the elder sister, on succeeding to Gleneagles, took the name and arms of Haldane, but on his death, without issue male, in 1799, that estate devolved on Admiral Lord Duncan, the eldest surviving son of the younger sister, the maternal grandmother of Robert and James Alexander Haldane, of whom a memoir is given in the following pages. @
Their father, Captain James Haldane of Airthrey, was the only son of Colonel James Haldane, who served from 1715 to 1741, in that squadron of the royal horse now known as the 2d regiment of life-guards. He died at sea, 9th December 1742, near Jamaica, on the Carthagena expedition, in command of General Guise’s regiment of infantry. On 15th December 1762, his son married his first cousin, Katherine, daughter of Alexander Duncan of Lundie, and had, with a daughter, who died in infancy, two sons: @
Robert, born at London 28th February 1764; and James Alexander Haldane, a posthumous child, both of whom acquired a prominent name in the modern religious history of Scotland, as narrated in a subsequent memoir. The elder son, Robert, succeeded to the estate of Airthrey, and built Airthrey castle in 1791. A few years previously he had constructed a lake covering thirty acres on his grounds, in which, soon after, he was nearly drowned. @
“It was winter,” says his nephew, the biographer of the family, “and during the frost, there was a large party of visitors and others on the ice, enjoying the amusement of skating and curling. He was himself standing near a chair on which a lady had been seated, when the ice suddenly broke, and he was nearly carried under the surface. With his usual presence of mind, he seized on the chair, which supported him, and quietly gave directions to send for ropes, as a rash attempt to extricate him might have only involved others in the impending catastrophe. Providentially there was help at hand; and by laying hold of the ropes brought by a gamekeeper and an old servant, he was happily extricated from his perilous position.” [Memoirs, p. 42.] @
The estate of Airthrey is now the property of Lord Abercromby, having been purchased from Robert Haldane in 1798, by the celebrated General Sir Ralph Abercromby. @
Of the Lanrick branch of the Haldanes, above referred to, Mr Alexander Haldane informs us that it only lasted two generations. He says, “Patrick, the first proprietor died young, having married Miss Dundas of Newliston, who was, through her mother, one of the younger coheiresses of the original stock of Halden of Halden-rig in the south. The eldest coheiress of that family was married to John, first earl of Stair, who, in her right, acquired the lands of Newliston. @
Patrick Haldane left two younger sons, one of whom was a professor at St. Andrews, and was burned to death whilst reading in bed. John, the elder son, took part in the rebellion of 1745, but contrived to escape forfeiture, and returned after many years of exile to die at Lanrick, in 1765, at the age of 85. He left six daughters, who had numerous descendants. @
Some of the male heirs of Lanrick are said to be still found in the north of Scotland. James Oswald, Esq. of Auchencruive, is the male representative of the eldest daughter of John Haldane. The Rev. James Haldane Stewart, vicar of Limpsfield, in England, is descended from the Lanrick family, his grandfather, Stewart of Ardshiel, who commanded the right wing of the rebel army at Culloden, having married a granddaughter of Patrick. Mr. Stewart of Ardshiel on one occasion fought with and disarmed Rob Roy. @
Sir Walter Scott has borrowed the incidents of this adventure in his tale, giving the catastrophe a turn more suited to the dignity of his hero. It is the scene at the clachan of Aberfoyle.” [Memoirs of the Haldanes, p. 6, Note.] @
MacKenzie spelling variations include: MacKenzie, McKenzie, Kennethson, Kenneth, Kennieson, MacCoinnich (Gaelic), MacWhinnie, MacWhinny, MacWhinney and many more.
Coat of Arms: A blue shield with a gold stag's head cabossed, within a gold border embattled.
Motto: Sic itur as astra
Motto Translated: Such is the way to immortality. @
McColl spelling variations include: MacAll, MacColl, MacCole, MacCall, MacAul, Mccall and others. The clan from whom the McColl family descends began among the ancient Dalriadan tribe of the west coast of Scotland. Their name comes from the Gaelic surname of Scottish origin, which means son of the battle chief. First found in Argyllshire where they were seated from early times and their first records appeared on the census rolls taken by the early Kings of Britain to determine the rate of taxation of their subjects. @
MacMillian spelling variations include: MacMillan, MacMullan, MacMullen, McMullen, McMullin, McMullan, McMillan, MacMullin and many more. First found in Agyllshire where they were seated from early times and their first records appeared on the early census rolls taken by the early Kings of Britain to determine the rate of taxation of their subjects.
Coat of Arms: Gold with a black lion and at the top three blue stars.
Motto: Miseris succurrere disco.
Motto Translated: "I learn to succour the distressed".
Badge: A hand brandishing a double-handed sword.@
Mosse spelling variations include: Moss, Mos, Mosse and others. First found in Lancashire where they were seated from very early times. It is thought that some lines were of Norman stock and were granted lands by Duke William of Normandy, their liege Lord, for their distinguished assistance at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 A.D.
Coat of Arms: Quarterly: Ermine with a blue cross between six squares, three at the top and three in base.
Motto: En la rose je fleurie.
Motto Translated: I flourish in the rose. @
HALDANE has spelling variations that include: Haldane, Hadden , Haldean, Halden, Haldenby. An old personal surname meaning, ' Half-Dane.' This name is of Scottish descent and is found in many ancient manuscripts in the above country. Examples of such are a Halden filius Eadulf was one of the witneses to Earl David's inquisition into the territorial possessions of the church of Glasgow in 1124 and a Haldene was steward of Earl Waldeve in the year 1178. Names were recorded in these ancient documents to make it easier for their overlords to collect taxes and to keep records of the population at any given time. When the overlords acquired lands by either force or gifts from their rulers, they created charters of ownership for themselves and their vassals. Other examples of this name were found in the person of Roger Haldane who in 1255 was granted sixty acres of lands outside the Castle of Scardeburc and a distinguished bearer of the name was Richard Durdon Haldane (1856-1928) who was the first Viscount of Haldane.@
Stewart spelling variations include: Stewart, Steward, Stillbhard (Gaelic) Stuart and others. First found in Oswestry, Shropshire where they had been granted lands by William the Conqueror, their liege Lord.
Coat of Arms: A gold shield with a fess chequey blue and silver.
Motto: Virescit vulnere virtus.
Motto Translated: Courage grows stronger at the wound.@
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